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the base or you can't reach out across the aisle. remember that democratic voters are people who also want to see progress. they want to see things gets done. so what president biden has been able to do in the first few years of his presidency is not a way into our republicans would not go a lot. exactly could not get them to, do he went and did them himself. the inflation reduction act, the biggest investment in tackling climate change in a generation. he did that without republican votes. but he was able to get republican votes for a gun safety bill. able to get meaningful things done with republicans. and for him, that is fundamental. and i think that is what voters want to see. and you can bet that will be a central piece of his pitch for 2024. >> obviously will be a part of his pitch. kate confirm that for us. you have been a lot of campaigns and you did not work on the biden campaign. but in this age of trump, do you think that message in this environment is going to work if it is central to the presidents reelection campaign? >> i think that it will normally work and i think it is what the american people yearn