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continue to focus on what he has gotten done on the case that he has made for bringing back manufacturing jobs, for bringing semiconductor chips back to this country. having supply chains here in the united states, we are not dependent on countries overseas. he is doing things are making a difference for the economy. he is doing things that are tackling, as i said earlier, our climate crisis and the gun crisis. he is fighting to protect our rights and the rights of women to have access to abortion and reproductive health. so i think what you are going to see and i imagine what you will see from the president is it will continue to see him make the case for the things he has done. the promises he has, kept frankly, from the 2020 campaign. but you also see him never shy away from calling out the threat that he believes that trump and maga-ism posed to this country. >> i ask this because i think it is a really tricky balance. and most democratic candidates, most candidates have to run against trump. so gibbs, what do you think about whether the president should weigh in more on the
present as the white house press secretary as office head just how we talk thinks about his role in thinks about republicans. and as he looks ahead to 2024, he is reaching back to the success of his 2020 bid. and the messaging around that. campaigning against trumpism. without totally alienating all republicans. the idea in part is for the president to convince people who may not be democrats to come over and support him to if they cannot stomach trump. it is not just politics. that is also who he is. when i worked for him he would regularly pick up the phone and call republicans without much fanfare. without announcing it. he is kind of a bridge builder by nature. the open question is if that strategy will pay off in 2024. my next guests are people who are spent a lot of time with in their offices and on the phones, texting them about strategies. and i am so grateful for them for being here tonight. kate bedingfield is the former white house communications director under president biden. we worked very closely together. robert gibbs served as the white house press secretary
are a party that seems to be a step outside of the mainstream, particularly when it comes to swing voters. that is a contrast i think he draws the most blood from and i think it is the one he is best suited given his political leanings over the course of his career, i think those are the contrast that you will see him make the most. >> so kate, i'm a believer that the president is often underestimated. i know you are two from talking to you about it. there is one thing a lot of people are freaking out about in the democratic party and that is enthusiasm on young people, among progressives. what is your take, what would you tell them so that they don't freak out about where this is headed and how the president is going to work to win those votes? >> well first of all it feels like sometimes it is a cottage industry and professional democratic sir circles to one, underestimate joe biden. but also bringing your hands and panicking and frantically
with president obama and also worked very closely with him. i want to start with his overarching question that came for you. because you work for the president so long you know him very well. i think that his overarching view is that there is a real appetite other in a country for somebody who can find common ground even with the methods of the modern-day republican party. that is of course a big pitch of 2020. how central, kate, do you think that is going to be to the reelection campaign and the messaging of that as we look to 2024? >> well first of, all think of having me, jen, this is a trait. i think that is going to be a critical piece of the messaging in 2024. for two reasons. one, because as you said it is fundamentally what president biden believes. it is how he has long navigated washing pan successfully, frankly. and he fundamentally believes that leader should be able to find common cause when they can. and i think that secondly it will be a huge piece of the messaging because we should do away with this notion that it is an either or dichotomy. that you either have to fire up
broad messaging of these cases or these cases in general? >> you know, i think that the tactic taken so far as the right one. donald trump guarantees every day that to the news about donald trump is going to get hefty placement in our news diet. there is not really anything that the president needs to do to push that case forward. it is also going to be interesting to watch, when or if the republicans running against trump begin to try to shout out a difference between him and an indictment, whether it is a new yorker or a could be a coming indictments. i think that the president is best suited as cake described to make the case that really works so well in 2022, which is, are you in the mainstream or you're in the extreme? and i think that what donald trump and what republicans are and whether it is on guns or on abortion, whether it is on health care costs, i think they
spending as much energy as possible tackling the problems telling reporters that we were worried. but look, i think that ultimately what's the present is going to do is going to continue to focus on the case it is made and i think it is important to remember that elections didn't happen in a vacuum. elections are about choice and contrast into the president has frequently said, do not compare me to the almighty. compare me to the alternative. as the campaign goes on and you continue to see this contrast between the extremism of trump and the maga republicans and the progress that joe biden is offering, i think that people will at the end of the day pull that lever for joe biden. >> kate bedingfield and robert gibbs, two of the smartest people i know in democratic politics and communications, thank you so much for joining me tonight. still ahead, if you are a republican governor wants to stop donald trump from becoming president again, is the best option not to run against him? you have your governor chris sununu seems to think so and he joins me next.
accomplishments show it. and i have no doubt that we are going to hear a lot about it over the course of the next two years. >> so one of the big elephant in the room here is all of these legal woes and troubles for trump. he has already been indicted. he could be indicted in a federal court, soon. the president has not spoken about in its. he is an observer of the tradition that you should not comment on an ongoing investigation. do you think, kate, that this continues to be the strategy moving forward? as these cases become not about hush money to an adult male film star but about democracy and about national security and rule of law? >> well i think that president biden has never hesitated to call donald trump out for the threat that he believes that he poses to democracy. so, i would say that there is no question that president biden is going to always, or is never going to shy away from calling it what he sees as really frankly accidental threats to our country. however, he's also going to
the base or you can't reach out across the aisle. remember that democratic voters are people who also want to see progress. they want to see things gets done. so what president biden has been able to do in the first few years of his presidency is not a way into our republicans would not go a lot. exactly could not get them to, do he went and did them himself. the inflation reduction act, the biggest investment in tackling climate change in a generation. he did that without republican votes. but he was able to get republican votes for a gun safety bill. able to get meaningful things done with republicans. and for him, that is fundamental. and i think that is what voters want to see. and you can bet that will be a central piece of his pitch for 2024. >> obviously will be a part of his pitch. kate confirm that for us. you have been a lot of campaigns and you did not work on the biden campaign. but in this age of trump, do you think that message in this environment is going to work if it is central to the presidents reelection campaign? >> i think that it will normally work and i think it is what the american people yearn
for. i do not think it is a glowing romanticized version of it they just know that an argument where two people are having that arguments the likely answer lies somewhere in the middle and i totally agree with kate i think that people come to washington to get things done, whether you are the most junior member of congress or the most senior member of the senate or the president of the united states. you still want to see progress on things. and to the american people are sophisticated enough to know that the only way they're going to see progress is if both sides work together. and they spent 40 years watching somebody foment a vision. sometimes almost unnecessarily. biden pitched himself as the competent growing up in the room who would bring washington together. i love the long he has been using which i'm sure he's been using for a while that he was told this bipartisanship was dead. i think that is a great way to picture it. i think that his