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choose the chairman? >> i don't know the exact process of the appointment. >> the pm chooses the chairman. and then the government tells the pay-per-view ward with the upper limits are of the budgets. and then they say, okay as a result, 6% for nurses and doctors. six and a half percent for teachers or whatever it might be. so you say okay. >> the way the process works is that the pay-per-view bodies gather evidence. they take input from government. they take evidence from the workforce unions. from health unions. they also look at the kind of rates of pay in the wider market. look at, inflation they come back with a recommendation. and there's a number of pay-per-view bodies, different parts of the public sector. some have reported back, others have not. government has to look at public sector pay in the round. and it makes sense for us to do that because we have to make

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