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good versus who is bad. when i was in ukraine, it was easy to saint russia bad, ukrainians are good. that was true. the problem comes in when it goes to another region where you have palestinians, for example. so the way that they're covered is that they're the only people who are allowed to give voice to what is going on. just like black people in the united states are expertise is not really acknowledged, our voices aren't acknowledged until white people confirmed that it is true. so the difference there is that we have had decades upon decades of israeli propaganda that makes us forget about the fact that the creation of israel came at the expense of 700,000 palestinians. the challenge with that is as journalist, the courage that we need in order to bring humanity to these people, because what often happens is that either, with palestinians, they either deserve it or they had it coming. there is really, there has not been an inflection point in the united states. we were talking about this and