Gave up a lot and the companies were in trouble. Now theyre doing incredibly well and guess what. You should be doing incredibly well, too. Yeah President Biden makes an historic visit to a uaw picket line as donald trump, an impostor, pretending to be a friend of organized labor, gets ready to speak to auto workers tomorrow. People hes never raised a finger to help. Also, a major legal blow to trump as a judge rules that he committed fraud for years. Exaggerating his net worth and massively overvaluing his assets. And John Fetterman joins me on the growing threat. The growing calls for Senator Menendez to step down and much more. We begin with an historic day with union joe doing something no sitting president has ever done. Walking a picket line. Biden joins striking United Auto Workers in michigan deal, a big fing deal, in biden speak, to close out a summer of labor. More on that later. Whats also a huge deal is the potential Government Shutdown in just four days. The senate is working on a shortterm mission to buy congress more time until mid november while Kevin Mccarthy tries to find a way to placate his maga fringe. What do they want . Weirdly enough, the same thing he wants. To cut off the funding to his least favorite country. And to defund the Special Counsel whos prosecuting trump. Just how dangerously unfit he is to serve. Reenforced by his other recent threats. Like threatening to execute outgoing joint chiefs chairman, mark millie. General millies offense youll recall was making a phone call to reassure china making a siege on the Capitol By Trump supporters. In fact in a recent profile, he would come after him in the white house. Mark esper said millies concerns are a legitimate fear and he would throw his political emies in jail if elected again. Underscoring the danger of reelecting a mob boss, a georgia judge has ordered the name of jurors in the case against trump be kept secret until the trial ends. All very serious. About the danger he poses to democracy and to individual americans. And that someone who saw it firsthand. The january 6th committees star witness, former white house aide, Cassidy Hutchison in her first live interview with rachel maddow. This year has helped me open my eyes to the dangers that trump imposes on people. Im not the only one. I wish i could say id be the last person but unfortunately i wont. Thats what he does to people that he thinks speak out against, or that detract from him. Its one of the more Dangerous Things about donald trump, too. Weve seen time and time again. It shouldnt have to be like this. Hush is son said she belongs to a Different Party than the current gang led by trump and called for more republicans to join her in speaking out ahead of the next election. We all want the republic to survive. And the way that, im not confident that he will have it survive. I do not believe that mr. Trump is a strong republican but in this next election cycle, its in my opinion, its the make or break moment for the republican party. Were talking about a man who at the very essence of his being almost destroyed democracy in one day and he wants to do it again. For now, theyre siding with their maralago boss over their supposed leader in the house. Speaker mccarthy, with matt gaetz as the leader of the shutdown brigade. Basically, a band of radicals holding them out. He reportedly told mccarthy he had a list of members whos oppose Anything Mccarthy Put forward, calling them immovable. Meaning in plain english, mccarthy can either get right wingers on board which hes trying to do by floating massive cuts like taking a million low income families off nutrition aid, slashing Home Heating Aid by 70 before winter and Cutting School lunch assistance by 80 all to appease his negative detractors. What a box to be in. So with half of the House Of Representatives currently a Nonfunctioning Puddle of chaos, americans have until Saturday Night for congress to figure out a plan to keep the lights on. Joining me now is charlie sykes. Msnbc contributor. And sahil, nbc News Senior National political reporter. Sahil, i want to go to you first. Youre on the hill. What is the State Of Play . How close are they to getting anything like a deal to keep the government open . Well, theyre two very different states of play in the senate and the house and the senate, they are moving forward with a bipartisan bill to keep the government open on a shortterm basis. The vote was just clocked in at 7719. They voted to proceed with this. But the details of this bill are ill say it briefly, it keeps the government open until November 17th on a shortterm basis. About 6 billion in economic and military aid to ukraine. About 6 billion additional in disaster are relief funds and extends the faas authorities through the end of the year. That also expire t at the end of this month. Thats the senate side. Theyre in good shape to pass this bill. Unclear if theyll do it by the saturday deadline. Some republican senators could reject to a speedy vote. In this house, its a very, very different situation. Theyre still trying to negotiate with the senate, get it through the democratic controlled senate, theyre going to have to get President Biden. The hard liners want a steep series of cuts which hes struggling to get through the House Of Representatives in his narrow majority. Some also say they will not vote to fund the government on a shortterm basis which leads him in a jam. Hes chosen to keep his job. Hes trying to get these bills through the house. Its going to be a pretty wild ride. There has been people like Catherine Clark, the vote counter. The house whip on the minority de has talked about what the price would be of democrats coming to the table and helping. One of the things would be to end the Impeachment Inquiry. What is is democratic side saying about what price they would exact from Kevin Mccarthy if theyve got to provide him the votes to pass a bill. This question keeps coming up because of the way people like matt gates are trying to overthrow mccarthy is all but inevitable and democrats will have a choice to make. Do they support the motion to make it the speakers chair. Minority power would always do that. It would not support a republican speaker. Ive got to say im very, very skeptical. This sounds like an episode of the west wing. Not something that happens in reality for democrats to basically protect mccarthys job and keep a republican speaker. That doesnt play well in even competitive district. Also, democrats want a whole series of demands from mccarthy. That he is never going to provide because it would further weaken him to the point of untenltability. They want him to let go of the inquiry. They want him to pursue bipartisan government funding levels. In the words of one aide, stop letting the crazies one the house. Is mccarthy going to do that . Its unlikely. Democrats might just be hastening his departure from the speakership. Okay. Im not lawrence odonnell, but its the stupid west wing. Charlie, this is a stupid, this is stupid. Because the reality is Kevin Mccarthy cannot from what sahils reporting has told me is that he cannot avoid the motion to vacate. Hes out there now trying to blame President Biden. Let me play him. Trying to make himself sound like hes in charge of something because hes not. What the president will do is say one of my fundamental jobs of the United States is secure. Secure that border, well be able to keep it all open and working. Are you willing to shutdown the government if you do not get Border Security deal . Lets be clear. Charlie, charlie. Charlie. Joe biden could actually build the wall somehow over the rio grande and still take mccarthy out of the speakership because gaetz is running for governor of florida. Kevin mccarthy has a choice to make to keep the country running, open or to protect his speaker shim. As we know, hell opt to protect his speakership. When he made one compromise after another. Hes talking about the fundamental responsibilities of the president. One of congress is to keep the lights on. Hes not doing it. Whats really extraordinary in listening to the breakdown, what is this shutdown about . The executive Vice President of the chamber of commerce, a republican leaning organization, say hes thinking of this like the seinfeld shutdown. Its about nothing because theres no end game. Theyre not going to get what they want. At a certain point, this is for people like matt gaetz, the fight is about the fight. Keeping it going. The more chaos he creates, the better it is for him no matter how much damage he does to the country. And youre seeing what mccarthy is willing to do. Mccarthy is willing, his speakership hangs by a thread from maralago. He knows what donald trump can do with him and he knows that he has to make one concession after another. But its never enough because the point is not to be a Governing Party for people like gaetz. Its to create as much chaos as possible. To exact as much pain. The fact that hes willing to go along with the very online extremist in his caucus and cut the kinds of programs that you just listed, you have to wonder at what point do the moderates in the caucus say to hell with this, were not going to go along with this. I dont see how this ends well for mccarthy and unfortunately, the rest of us are being held hostage as well. I mentioned the things theyll be doing to the working poor in this country. Cutting nutritionol funding. We didnt even get into military pay. People in the United States military will not get their paychecks. They claim on the republican side they care about the military. Thats what they would be cutting. So republicans are willing to be responsible for the members of the United States military who are already not getting promotions because of the alabama senator, tuberville. Now they cant even get their checks. Theyre supposed to be so good at messaging. How do you message that . This is a party that claims its pro child, pro family. Pro military. Pro life. All of those things and what are they doing as their opening gambit . Their opening bid . Lets slash all of those programs and of course the ads almost write themselves which again, we have yet to hear from the republicans in the Swing Districts who have got to be going to Kevin Mccarthy. We know the extent to which you are willing to sell off various body parts to the Marjorie Taylor greene but do you understand what you are actually doing here. And i think the classic headline of the week was sahils headline. Donald trump breaks with Kevin Mccarthy. And opts for shutting down the federal government because i mean you know, havent we seen this movie before . Where Kevin Mccarthy will crawl On Bended Knee and pull his and what does donald trump do . Just sort of grinds his heel down and humiliates him some more. Once again, were seeing the Kevin MccarthyHumiliation Olympics being played out but unfortunately, the stakes are awfully high for a lot of americans who actually will be hurt by this. Absolutely. Let me play the person whos being described by Cassidy Hutchison in this clip in which she refutes a very odd claim by your house leader, matt gaetz. Matt gaetz in my opinion is somebody that i personally do not hold in high regards in terms of trust and i will say on behalf of myself, i have much Higher Standards in men and matt frankly is a very unserious politician. Matt gaetz of florida Who Hallucinated that he dated Cassidy Hutchison is in charge of whether the military will be paid, whether School Lunches will be funded and whether School Lunches will be funded. Thats where we are, america. Congratulations. Charlie, sahil, thank you both very much. Up next, another major legal defeat for donald trump as a judge finds that he committed fraud by exaggerating his wealth and value of his assets. Shocked. Assets. Shocked. Type 2 diabetes . Discover the ozempic® trizone. I got the power of 3. I lowered my a1c, cv risk, and lost some weight. In studies, the majority of people reached an a1c under 7 and maintained it. Im under 7. 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Plus, ask how to get an 800 prepaid card with a qualifying internet bundle. Comcast business, powering possibilities. It is not surprise that donald trump continueses to make the baseless claims that biden is behind his many legal woes and hes being prosecuted for purely political reasons. It is a surprise though when they decide to use it at their court. The Special Counsels office filed the order later this month. Arguing that its necessary given the threats against people that trump has targeted in the case and the potential to intimidate jurors and others. In a 25 page filing, trumps lawyers claim this is all just an attempt to silence President Bidens most prominent political opponent and they say no threat exists from the twice impeached former president. Quote, the prosecution does not and can not explain or otherwise fall within that small class of Fighting Words that are likely to provoke the average person to retaliation. It will be judge chutkan to decide this matter and she has peeks experienced the threats. The New York Times writes she received a message that threatened to kill her. The woman has been arrested. There was breaking news late today in the civil Fraud Lawsuit that trump indeed committed fraud. It is a major blow to trump who was asking the junl to throw the case out entirely. That trial is set to begin on monday. So many trials so little time. Catherine christian, former Manhattan District Attorney and msnbc legal analyst and david k. Johnston, Syracuse University law professor and author of the big cheat. Donald trumps least america. Very appropriate title. Tim, i want to go to you. Were going to go in order. This man has so many cases and so many trials its hard to keep track. Lets start with the claims. Jack smith is saying trump is claiming there is no threat and that in fact, its Special Counsel jack smith who is, has attacked trump. This is what trumps filing says. Prosecutor jack smith held a Press Conference falsely claiming hes fuels an unprecedented assault. Heres what jack smith said. The attack on our nations capitol on january 6th, 2021 was an unprecedented assault on the seat of american democracy. Its described in the indictment. It was fueled by lies. Lies by the defendant targeted at obstructi