Not an elected president. That one man in our nation of laws might, just might lawfully sit is Above The Law. That applies to every other single citizen. The Supreme Court, which has some of the lowest Approval Ratings among the American Public in its history, in counts three trump appointees yesterday decided to dignify a legal series contrary to the american experiment that it rhymes with trumps Access Hollywood moment of infamy. Basically arguing when youre president , they let you do it. Agreeing to hear this case at all is the hinged moment. No matter what happens next. It alone opens the door to turning america into a country where one person can commit crimes in this effort to overturn an election he loses, enlist others in that criminal conspiracy and then instead of facing any criminal accountability, just run for office again. And every last vestige the of criminal liability, criminal exposure and accountability. Has to be Crystal Clear today about the logistical the implications just of yesterdays news about the cannot be unwrong. As we ointed out on this program, over and over and over again, the trump staj is always the same one and its abundantly clear. Its always to delay, delay, delay, to run out the clock, slow down the spire legal process, exploit a defendants Due Process Rights so that a trial in any of these cases is still delayed and pushed back that it happens after the election. Most likely. At that point, donald trump made clear if he wins, he will use his power to free himself, to liberate himself from what he publicly on the stump day after day smears of an unlawful and politically motivated prosecution. That tactic whether wittingly or unwittingly received a pop in yesterdays decision from the Supreme Court. It comes despite the high stakes of actually having a trial in this Election Interference case. An enormous and quite obvious civic and Public Interest in it. A poll released earlier this month shows that 64 of all americans wanted to see Trump Go On Trial before november 2024. That number includes 38 of republicans. Now even after oral arguments in april, the court will take as long as it decides to take to make any decision on whether any american president , in this case that includes donald trump, is Above The Law for anything they to while in office. Even if it includes crimes kmieted while trying to overturn the will of the American Voter using any means possible. So legal accountability for donald trump is now delayed or maybe even denied, there is over is and over again a matter of political the accountability. And on that front, no matter how much or how often donald trump lies to his base about the results of the 2020 election, the cold hard facts is 81 million americans voted against him and for joe biden in 2020. I tonight know if youre ready to hear this, it looks like its going to the fall on the American People to do what our institutions constantly over and over again fail to do. To determine what conduct is outside the bounds of a nation of laws, outside the bounds and norms in a democracy. We will once again as citizens have to use the power of our vote to answer that question. Accountability for deadly attack on the United States capitol and our democracy now most likely in the hands of the American People. Thats where we start today. Former Police Officer who protected the nation is a mob of Trump Supporters carried out an insurrection and an attack on the toll, harry dunn is here. Hes now running for congress. You were the best person to talk to and the only person i wanted to talk to after this news broke on our show and i had 24 hours to process it. I know you write in your book of all of the alleged crimes committed, he should be accountable for all of them, but this one is different. Talk about that. First of all, welcome back. Im so happy to have you back on the air. Didnt get an opportunity to talk with you as early as some of the other people did, but you hit the ground running. No choice. We are a time in this country where like you said the people are going to have to do the work for the institution. Theres so many parallels that are at play here right now. The government right now is a government of the people, by the people, for the people. So we come let me back up for a second is. The blame for this solely outside of donald trump, put square ri on Mitch Mcconnell and the Senate Republicans who voted to acquit him when they had the opportunity to supervent this from happening. First of all, i have to acknowledge that. But to go become to your point about the people, we need to get involved. This is the government is the government of us, the American People. And we dont want the majority of people in the polls that you have shown, a majority of people dont want a criminal, a felon to be running for president. Nobody is Above The Law. What you remind me of, and i made a quick list, of course, hes acquitted by the senate after mcconnell refers him for prosecution. But after referred by the republican lead orer of the senate, theres no evidence that doj turns to do what mcconnell suggested they do on that day or the day after. Its not until the public work of the Congressional Committee led by chairman thompson. I was thinking about this on my way in today that we talk about institutions like they are absent human beings, but Law Enforcement as an institution, it was you, it was offer sic nick, congress wasnt just a blob. It was bennie thompson, liz cheney, witnesses werent just institutional innocents. It was we separate institutions from people, but institutions are only as good as the people that are themselves. I wonder how that changes now your campaign and your conversation as youre out there. Yeah, same thing with the presidency. The presidency is just a human being. So that goes back to the point that nobody is Above The Law. And im glad you named those individuals that you named. Especially the elected officials. Thats where it comes become. Thats the parallel. All the people that those individuals that you listed, they are elected by us, the American People. And i think that needs to be clear in the messaging that candidates running such as myself need to have election time. We are fighting because these institutions have failed us. Not every single person, but these institutions have failed because of some of the choices that voters have made. We need to continue to improve the institutions. Thats a whole different thing. These unelected people that are Making Decisions that are affecting peoples lives. Thats a whole different discussion were having with the Supreme Court. But thats the messaging that we need to have. The American People and honestly, if january 6th didnt ha, you and i arent talking. Were probably not having this conversation. Im not running for congress. But we are at this moment right now where we dont have the the luxury to sit back and see how things play out. We did that in 2016. We took our eyes off the ball. Donald trump first got elected. We cant do that. Because theres too much at risk. Theres too much at stake. We all have to stay engaged and stay motivated. Democracy is worth protecting. Its fra industrial jill. We are at a breaking point. I was thinking yesterday and i think i said this on the air. Its hard to say this and its hard to give this to trump, but what he does works for him. The strategy the of delay, delay, delay, rile up your base, yesterdays evidence that he should keep doing it because its probably going to work out for him. Its probably going toft the effect of making it extremely difficult, not impossible, but extremely difficult for a trial to happen before anyone votes. And i was reading through the stories today. The a ap, as straight as it comes, the Supreme Court decision yesterday a legal victory for trump making it all but impossible that a juror will be to the evidence against trump before voting happened. And i was thinking back to how the country got to know you, this Congressional Probe. I already find what that probe did one of the most historic and important things to happen in my life. But if thats the only body that investigates and seeks to hold accountable Donald Trump For Ab insurrection that mike pence and husband family wept running for their lives. They dont walk if youre not scared for your life. You run. What does it make you sort of reflect back on when you think about the importance of the Congressional Probe . The Congressional Probe, the thing that goes back to mind, i cant talk about how disgusted i am with Mitch Mcconnell and Husband Actings that day because right after the the january 6th attack at the capitol, michael fanone, a couple other people lobbied members of the senate to form that bipartisan committee. This was before the January 6th Committee was formed. And Mitch Mcconnell, as for a personal favor to his senate colleagues, to vote to block that investigation from happening. So its just extremely frustrating. We have so many days, had so many off ramps. I get so frustrated. Here we are again. And donald trump is about to possibly skate on a technicality. Ask that just brings about the Bigger Picture of the criminal Justice System that we need to be reformed. Do these trials need to take this long. Do we have the ability thats one of the things i would love to look at when i get in congress. We need to reform the criminal Justice System. It should not take the january 6th was 3 years ago. Some of the individuals who committed the crimes pled guilty are already out from serving their sentences from the actions they committed that day. And now were still debating whether the president is immune from his actions of that day . Thats a problem. Whats so interesting having covered trump for so many years is the defense always moved. It goes from i didnt do it to what the Supreme Court is going to hear isnt trump arguing he didnt do it. Its trump argue whg youre president they let you. Hes literally arguing when youre famous they let you do it about grabbing women between the legs. Hes going to argue youre immune from criminal accountability from anything you do while president. Theres a word for that. Its a king. Its a dictator. Its all out in the open. And the very signal we send Around The World that were going to hear it. Were going to have our clerks write up briefs and have a decision. To me it sends a signal that we have already changed. Do you think we have changed . We already have. The question before the Supreme Court where the courts right now is can a president send the seal team 6 to assassinate his political opponent. Thats something youd expect to hear on an extreme talk show. But thats a legit question before the Supreme Court. So yes, we definitely changed. Those are the things that you hear about an underdeveloped democracy or countries like we shouldnt be having that discussion with here. People like to say were the greatest nation on earth. We need to act like it. This should not be an issue right now. But it is. And its putting a strain and a definite test on our institutions of the courts, the legislative branch and we need to stand up for it. Cant stress this enough. People have got to be involved. Like you said at the top of the segment, us americans are the ones who are going to decide this. Its up to us right now. We need to hammer that home. We have a the lot of public spacing evidence that the conservative justices in particular consume Copious Amounts of media including cable news coverage, Newspaper Coverage because they give a lot of speeches in which they complain about the way they are covered justice alito, if youre watching. What would you say to the justices who decided to hear trumps case that he has immunity from criminal prosecution . Thus about how they are going to be judged. Think about what the country is actually wants. Listen to the American People. I get it. Theres a lot of nuances with laws and everything like that. But history is not going to be favorable to them. And you are at an impasse right now where you have an opportunity to do whats right morally. I get theres a lot of nuances in laws and so many technicalities, but when it comes down to it, morally, you have to do what is right. The republicans who voted to acquit him failed to do, they have an opportunity to do it now, to set a precedent because history will remember this decision forever. Theres so much that i always want to get to with you. I have all these other pieces of your book that i wanted to dive back through. I want to ask about your campaign. But we have to make a turn today. Please promise youll come back and sit a at this set with us and chomp on the days events. Thank you very much for being here on a day like today. Thank you for having me. Thank you. Its great to see you. Still to come for us, officials in three states have ruled that donald trump did engage in an insurrection. And that donald trump should be kept off the president ial ballot in those states. As we wait for the Supreme Court to weigh in on that. And this is what at the southern border. President biden is in texas expected to blast republicans for blocking a Security Bill while donald trump was on the border today too. An issue he single handedly sabotaged when there was a solution in reach. And later in the broadcast, how alan bragg is planning to use trumps own words against him in the one criminal trial that isnt in jeopardy. The one, the expresident is staring down at and expected to start in a few weeks. Theres new reporting to tell you about and much more, when deadline white house continues after a quick break dont go anywhere. After a quick dont go anywhere. You can make money the hard way as a bullfighter or a human cannonball. Or save money the easy way, with xfinity mobile. Existing customers can get a free line of our most popular unlimited plan for a year not only will you save hundreds but youll also be joining millions who have connected to americas most reliable 5g network. Sure is a lot safer than becoming a stuntman for money. Get a free line of unlimited intro for a year when you buy one unlimited line. Visit xfinitymobile. Com today to learn more. Used to be Sleep Walking into dictaorship in the United States. Is that what we would have if we reelected donald trump . I think its a very, very real threat and concern. And i dont say any of that lightly. It seems crazy to ask this and crazy to fathom it, but do you believe were donald trump were elected he would try to stay in office beyond a second term . We would Never Leave Office . Theres no question. Would he try to stay in power forever . Absolutely. Hes already done it once. Theres no question hes already done once. Cold, hard facts. Joining our conversation, former top prosecutor at the department of Justice Andrew weisman is back with us. And columnist and contributor charlie sykess. Im glad you just gave in and agreed to be here every day after yesterday. That was a close call. Your thoughts about what we woke up to this morning and the prospects of legal accountability . In many ways we are living through bush v. Gore, but its not hitting us straight in the face because instead of a decision on Black And White that says this is now who the president is, this decision gives this little glimmer of hope that maybe this trial will happen but as my colleague and our colleague joyce vance said, the stars and moon and sun have to all align. And everything has to come the into play for there to be a trial where the facts will actually matter and we dont have donald trump just spinning the public. Which is an extra oshd nar position. The Supreme Court has sided with donald trump on this case. Its obviously going to side with him in the colorado case. And to the point that liz cheney was asked about what could we expect, obviously, joe biden won the election and donald trump could stil win, but i really dont have hope as to who would endorse the constitutional mechanism that there are only two terms. Is it going to be congress . They same to be fairly ineffect yule when it comes to impeachment. It was going to be the Supreme Court, the Supreme Court just issued a stay in this case, but that actually reaching any legal conclusions that you need to reach a stay. They basically kept the judges case on ice, but they didnt do any of the things that the law requires to find that a stay is appropriate. Youre supposed to go through all sorts of factors, incluing that you have a likelihood of success and there would be taj. They didnt do any of that. They just issue