Maga base again. How will voters react to his reversal on Reproductive Rights . Ill ask Congresswoman Shontel Brown. Then, on the defensive. Trump tries again to dismiss the controversy over his visit to Arlington National Cemetery as Vice President harris now weighs in, accusing him of disrespecting sacred ground. And legal drama. Trump and special Counsel Jack Smith fight it out over whats next in the federal Election Interference Case. Why the former president is trying to delay proceedings until next year. Im charles Coleman Jr. In for jonathan capehart, and weve got a lot to talk about. This is the Saturday Show. This weekend marks our celebration of Labor Day and the unofficial end to what has been a historic and sometimes unbelievable summer. And now comes the race to november, with both Kamala Harris and Donald Trump each making their sprint toward election day. With 66 days to go Vice President harris looks to capitalize on a successful week including her Bus Tour through south georgia. On thursday around 7,500 supporters packed an arena in savanna to hear Vice President Kamala Harris speak. It was the maximum capacity of the venue according to her campaign. And that on the Road Momentum seems to be translating to the polls. A new Fox News Poll shows that harris has put four sunbelt states back in play since she entered the race. Now she narrowly leads trum within the margin of error in georgia, Arizona And Nevada while trump is barely clinging to a Onepoint Lead in North Carolina. The poll also shows that the Vice President has improved on President Bidens 2020 and 24 Poll Numbers in those same states. But heres the thing we have to keep in mind. Polls are not predictive. They just represent a snapshot in time. And theyve been wrong before. Im old enough to remember that in this exact month in 2016 Fox News had Hillary Clinton crushing Donald Trump in the race by ten points. So while polls are useful, take into account that they dont always indicate what voters will ultimately decide in november. Nevertheless, the Vice President is using the momentum to her advantage, even doing the one thing her critics accused her of dodging. A Sitdown Interview. On thursday in a conversation with Cnns Dana Bash she and governor Tim Walz discussed a wide range of topics. But there was one thing that the Vice President refused to entertain. And that was trumps attacks on her identity and race. He suggested that you happened to turn black recently for political purposes. Questioning a Core Part of your identity. Yeah. Any same old tired playbook. Next question, please. Thats it . Thats it. Thats it. As you can see, harris has not taken the bait on any of trumps attacks. And he seems to be rattled by how unbothered she appears. Listen, schoolyard bullying, race baiting and name calling are his usual goto moves. But as he becomes more flustered by not being able to find solid footing, hes struggling to put out a consistent message on policy. Case in point, on Thursday Trump initially told nbc that he thought floridas sixweek Abortion Ban was too short and he indicated he would vote for a proposed amendment that would expand Abortion Access in the state. But just a day later after some pressure from conservative activists he reversed course and came out against the measure. So i think six weeks you need more time than six weeks. Ive disagreed with that right from the early primaries when i heard about it. I disagreed with it. At the same time the democrats are radical because the nine months is just a ridiculous situation. So ill be voting no for that reason. Now, besides trumps flipflopping on the this issue its very important that we debunk his lie right here. Democrats are not and have not pushed for abortions at nine months. In fact, according to federal and state data abortions past the point of viability are extremely rare. Joining me now to get us started and unpack all of this is Congresswoman Shontel Brown of ohio, a national Advisory Board Member of the harris walz campaign. Congresswoman, thank you so much for being here. I want to start with the Vice President s response on twitter regarding trump and his comments to fox where she said first he got roe overturned then he got Abortion Banned in 20 states, now hes voting for an Abortion Ban in the state where he lives. If elected Hell Sign a nationwide Abortion Ban if it crosses his desk. What do you make, congresswoman, of Donald Trumps Back And Forth flipflopping on this issue, and how do you think if at all voters will be able to reconcile his different positions . Well, charles, first and foremost, thank you for having me. I have to wish one of my very dearest friends a happy 50th birthday to lisa. Now, on to the real business. Trump flipflops more than my favorite sandals. You cannot trust a word that this man says. He has gone Back And Forth on this position. And the reason were even in this situation is we must harken back to what you talked about at the top of the program, and thats 2016. Now, were going to go on what antoine c. Wright refers to as a Poller Coaster from now until election day. Theyre going to go up and down. Right . Hillary clinton was defeating Donald Trump according to the polls. So some people stayed home. Some people decided they were going to vote Third Party in protest because of her emails. And what we ended up with was Donald Trump in the White House and the ability to appoint not one, not two, but three Supreme Court justices who have overturned decades of precedent as it relates to women being able to make their own Health Care decisions. So i want people to be reminded of that and to understand that the stakes are equally high in this election. Despite the energy, despite the enthusiasm, we have to harness all of this and show up in the polls. That is the only way to stop Donald Trump, j. D. Vance, and their extreme project 2025 plans including a national Abortion Ban that has no exceptions for rape or incest. And remember, ohio is the state where we had the 10yearold Rape Victim who had to flee our state to get the Health Care that she needed because abortion is Health Care. Now, shontel, both Donald Trump and Vice President harris are in a very tightly contested and hotly contested race. They both need to get as many voters as they can who are persuadable to turn out. From either side is there a world that exists that allows them to stretch and reach voters who are not a part of their base without losing the critical portions of their base that they actually need to turn out . I absolutely believe that wholeheartedly. As we have seen with the organic organization of support for the Kamala HarrisTim Walz ticket, i mean, we had over 70,000 republicans for Kamala Harris on a zoom call. So i think that is demonstrative of her ability to talk to people beyond party affiliation. During her interview she spoke about her willingness to put someone in her cabinet that was from the republican party. So this is a woman who is truly for the people. She is about taking care of the people. Where you have a strong stark contrast, where we have the senator from my state, who really only needed one qualification to replace mike pence, who his who Donald Trump attempted to have assassinated during the January 6th insurrection, which is why we have j. D. Vance on the ticket in the first place. He met the one qualification, and that was to be the Yes Man to Donald Trump, whose only desire is to stay out of jail. So when you look at these two candidates, two tickets, the republicans vs. The democrats, youve got democrats who are really fighting for the people, putting Forth Initiatives that are going to put money back into peoples pockets. We have a lot more work to do, and were clear about that. But on the other side you have people who are just disrespectful to everyone. I mean, from veterans to immigrants to people who have disabilities. This is just not the type of people that you want in control of power of the White House or any organization, for that matter. Congresswoman, you mentioned it and i want to sort of stay there for a moment. Lets talk about the Cnn Interview that the Vice President did. In it she was asked about Donald Trumps repeated attacks regarding her Race And Ethnicity and claims that she in fact is not black. At this point she neglected, or opted rather to address it. She really didnt respond at all. Dana bash didnt really push back on it. Is this a winning strategy for the Vice President , to not even engage around that question . Its working. Listen, the fact of the matter is the president the Vice President , Kamala Harris, has been black her whole life. I dont think that she has denied that. When you look at her history, the fact that shes pledged aka, the fact she went to an hbcu, that speaks for itself. So i applaud her not entertaining the foolishness that comes out of Donald Trumps mouth as it relates to her heritage and her race. This is, as she quoted, a tired old playbook that she continues to that he continues to use to try to attack people that hes clearly intimidated by. I think first Lady Obama also touched on it. Its hard for him to handle people who are intelligent, highly educated and hardworking that happen to be black. It was understood, needs not be explained. Its evident that shes black. Shes always been black. And shes not shes not flipflopping on that. Congresswoman brown, really quickly before we go, one of the things that did not get discussed during that interview was the Vice President s Position Or Policy around Criminal Justice and civil rights. When can we expect her to talk about that given her past as a former prosecutor . I think as she continues to crisscross the country and connect with the voters youll hear more from the Vice President on the great work that she did. I think that there are a lot of misinformation floating around. As a prosecutor, youre an attorney, so i wont pretend to do any lawyering here. But as prosecutors sometimes they get a bad rap but theyre really the people who are protecting and fighting for victims. And that is a big part of her career. She has won billions of dollars for people who were being taken advantage of by big banks in california. So im excited to hear her talk about how she put forth programs to reduce recidivism and things that really are beneficial again to the people. I expect more of that. And i think that when people get an opportunity to hear how she has served the public rather than Donald Trump, who only has an interest in serving himself, her numbers will continue to grow. Whats understood does not have to be explained. That was ohio Congresswoman Shontel Brown. Thank you for getting us started. And shout out and special happy birthday to your Girl Lisa on the Saturday Show. Thank you. We now turn to Breaking News out of the middle east. The idf says it has found a number of bodies during combat in the gaza strip. Troops are still operating in the area and are carrying out the process of extricating and identifying the bodies. The idf says that this could take several hours. We will bring you more as details emerge. Also coming up, Donald Trump tries to again defend his controversial visit to Arlington National Cemetery. But Vice President harris is accusing him of pulling a political stunt on sacred ground. Plus, blocking the vote. 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Its just so disgusting. And ill tell you, if you havent noticed, i get a lot of publicity. I dont need that publicity. I get a lot. I get too much. Id like to have half the publicity. I want to hire a Pr Person to get me half the publicity. In case youre wondering, hiring a Pr Person to get less publicity is generally not how hiring a Pr Person works but thats another conversation. Vice president harris Hit Back against trumps antics this afternoon tweeting, let me be clear. The former president disrespected sacred ground, all for the sake of a political stunt. Joining me now is rena shah, former senior gop Congressional Adviser and a member of republicans for harris. Erin haines, editor at large for the nineteenth. And christina greer, Associate Professor of Political Science at Fordham University and author of the book black Ethnics Race and immigration and the pursuit of the american dream. This is an allstar panel. So glad to have my favorites here. Rena, im going to start with you, less than three hours after Vice President harris tweeted her criticism of trump j. D. Vance was on the air waves. He tweeted saying why dont you get off Social Media and go launch an investigation into their unnecessary deaths . What do you make of this sort of Back And Forth between j. D. Vance and the Vice President . Putting my political Strategist Hat on i would have advised that. I think its fine for him to bring it up because thats what they wanted to do. They wanted to have a moment at Arlington National Cemetery where they could stick it in the biden administration to say you failed in afghanistan and americans havent forgotten. Well, look, i of course mourn the loss of our fellow Service Excuse me, fellow americans who served proudly and bravely and lost their lives in that withdrawal. And it wasnt a great withdrawal. It was pretty disastrous. But weve moved so far away from that, charles, and they are not able to land any punches. Thats what really sticks to me in particular. Sticks out to me. That j. D. Vance in all these weeks, in all his fighting back at harris, Theres Nothing that has stuck. So he continues to go out there and try anything but this is not the issue they want to be talking about right now. They want to be talking about bidenomics and every day that theyre forced to address one of their errors on the trail, talk about reproductive care access, abortion, is a day that they miss a chance to say we will give you a better, more thriving economy. And frankly, they also havent told us how theyd do that either. So its all really kind of confusing right now. Were going to continue to see j. D. Vance do this mibsed bag strategy. Thats for sure. Erin, picking up exactly where rinna left off, this idea that we are not seeing as much substantive engagement about policy from either side, what does that do to the electorate and which candidate does that hurt the most . I mean, youre talking about a political stunt at Arlington National Cemetery. Not that that should be dismissed from the perspective of honoring our fallen Service Members. But when youre thinking of the policies either of these candidates want to enact moving forward the electorate is not getting a clear picture of that from either side. About what type of Back And Forth, this Back And Forth, who does that hurt more, Biden Or Harris . Im sorry, Trump Or Harris . This incident is really just reminding people of who former President Trump was when he was in office even as you have Vice President harris attempting to introduce herself really for the first time to a lot of the american people who may not have known what she was doing as Vice President. So that was exactly what, to rinas point, former President Trump was trying to do. He was trying to seize on this issue and tie her to what he sees as a failed strategy in afghanistan with President Biden. But trump also has this record as it relates to his Support Or Lack thereof for the military, which is what the Harris Campaign is pointing out in response to his remarks, right . We have i candidate whose strategy of distraction is working against him because this strategy is distracting voters from the i