this is what I was looking for.â VW: âGive me something like Smashing Pumpkins, but more satanic.â [laughs] Is there a difference between doom and sludge, to you? FH: I think doom is more broad, and sludge is generally dirtier ⦠closer to hardcore punk. Carlos, you grew up here in Nashville. What was your musical upbringing like? CO: My dad was always into rock music, 105.9 The Rock and stuff. The first shop I ever went to was Phonoluxe. Thirteen was when I really started getting into music that was heavier, faster, weirder ⦠collecting CDs and trying to learn every instrument I could. I just wanted to keep pushing my limits, my musicianship, as much as possible. But I didnât start taking drums seriously till way later, when I started my first band Negra and met Frank.Â