Warning the people of kenya that they should be prepared for a long war. The next crew of the International Space station took flight. One american joined the three current members. The 3man crew that launched will receive the olympic torch on the space station and that will be used during the opening ceremonies of the Winter Olympics in russia. The space station is set to dock later tonight. Those are the headlines. Consider this is up next. For the latest, check out the website. The u. S. Senate sees another showdown over obamacare. In the latest move texas senator ted crews ended his almost daylong speech. Consider this when all is said and done what impact will all the hot air from both sides on the hill actually have on obamacare. Well ask minnesota congressman keith ellison. If iranian president Hassan Rouhani cant meet briefly with president obama, what hope should we hold out for diplomacy with iran. Is it a big step back. Well ask someone that had dinner with Hassan Rouhani. 28 Football CollegeFootball Players did something uniting to sent a message that reform is needed. Is the harsh backlash the players received part of the problem. Im antonio mora, welcome to consider this. The senate floor is the Battle Ground over obamacare. The latest skirmish featured a lot of talk but did nothing to slow momentum to key votes and a shutdown. If one reads the New York Times, one would expect that im leaning over, biding my colleagues. Senator ted cruz took to the senate floor on tuesday before three in the afternoon. I appreciate the senator from kansass observations that in his judgment we have not conducted ourselves in that way. He spoke for over 21 hours. Anyone trying to make this a battle of personalies is trying to change the topic from the topic that should matter. Whether or not obamacare is helping the American People. Mr president , if you focus on the substance, the evidence overwhelming. This law is a train wreck. His marathon stall tactic was intended to demonstrate his opposition to obamacare, but delay Senate Democrats from stripping the provision that defunds obamacare from the spending bill and sending it to the house. Harry reid called cruzs speech a big waste of time. Its a shame we are standing here having wasted perhaps two days most of yesterday and a good part of today. When we could pass what we need to pass quickly. A New York Times and cbs news poll found 80 of americans think its unacceptable for the president or congress to threaten a Government Shutdown as a way to negotiate. Theres little partisan divide. Democrats, republicans and independence feel its not acceptable. After cruz stopped speaking the senate voted to open debate. They are likely to send a bill back to the house with the funding of obamacare removed. With the clock ticking it remains to be seen, even if the house and senate comes to turns, if a Government Shutdown can be avoided. The republicans say they are ready to take up the obamacare debt fight again. For more im joined from washington dc by representative keith ellison, democratic member of minnesota and member of the house congress. Do you want to address what happened in the senate. Ted cruz wrapped up a 21 hour speech, a phil buster of sorts. He was trying to rally opponents so Senate Members wouldnt amend a bill before sending it to the house . What do you think, if anything, that the senator accomplished . I think he proved conclusively that he doesnt want a lot of people to have Health Care Coverage. He demonstrated that the 30 million that will get health care because of obamacare, he doesnt want them to have it. Thats pretty much all he did. Is it as limited as that . He has an argument that there are issues with obamacare, and something needs to be done to fix them. Theres never been a piece of legislation that didnt need some refine. As you move forward in time. If you look at the 1964 Civil Rights Act it didnt have voting in it or housing. Yet we came back in 65 and 68 to include the provision, and we reauthorise the bills all the time. Its no shock that the Affordable Care act needs to be revised, revisited and improved. Thats not what hes doing, he wants to repeal it, take it away. The one thing he did prove is that he doesnt want to see a lot of americans get Health Care Coverage, he doesnt want to see seniors filling a dough nut hole and have lower drug prices or see young parents stay on parents insurance until they are 26. I have a young woman intern at my office. She has a rare serious disease. Without the limit on lifetime caps, she could not get covered, and she probably wouldnt be with us. The fact is when i look into her eyes a young person, bright, full of life she needs Health Care Coverage and got it because of the Affordable Care act. Ted cruz wants to take it away. Its a serious problem. You make a fair point that hes trying to defund this. They have talked about other alternatives that wouldnt take away necessarily all the specific things you were talking about. Lets move forward. Now that the sirnt rejected, the senate devoted to go forward and debate the bill that defunds obamacare. The senate scheduled 30 hours on the measure, starting wednesday, thursday the senate is supposed to vote on the spending bill. Presumably it will be against it, along party lines. On saturday the senate will likely vote on a new bill that Senate Majority leader harry reid came up with, hunting the government, restoring obamacare funding. Leaving sunday and monday for the house to vote that into law. Then it goes to the senate for approval all has to be done before tuesday, by monday night, if not the government shuts down. Given the intransgens on both sides, are you concerned of a Government Shutdown. Im an optimist. I believe we understand here in congress how serious it would be for it to shut down a government. Not only would it shake the confidence of American People, it would lay off people, it would harm and make a meaningful difference in the lives of citizens who depend upon government services. Im hoping well stay here, do our job, stick to what our responsibilities are and we are going to fund the government. Do you think that right now as things stand, it seems that republicans probably will accept House Republicans will accept the senate bill and leave further back and forth about the negotiations over the shutdown for the debt ceiling, which that vote will have to come out by the middle of october. Well, i think republicans know that shutting down a government is not a winning formula for them, from a political standpoint and they caused harm to their brand when they literally caused damage to americas debt, their bond rating in august 2011. So i think that they are going to see the light and well do the right thing. Im not guaranteeing that. They have people in their caucus who are quite unusual in their points of view. We are going to stick together and we are going to push forward and do whats right for the American People shutting down the government and ruining americas bond rating and not paying debts is not good for america. Ill do what i can to avoid it. You have a point about the popularity, according to the latest New York Times cbs news poll, 16 of adults saying threatening to shut down the government should occur. I respect your point of view, that is said often, but democrats have been working hard to come to an agreement. Our position has been lets fund the government and pay our debts. I dont think its a both sidestype situation. The Senate Democrats couldnt come up with a budget bill until this year. The one passed was 5049 had very little support in general. There has been a significant issue on both sides when it comes to the budget. You sent a letter to the Senate Leadership on monday along with your cochair that asked for a budget resolution bringing spending up to its level before the sequester took effect last marge. You said, we can not support funding levels that add to the extensive damage caused by the se confer of. Thats true. Sequester. Thats true. If you take that position, some argue thats as stream as the tea party is . No, its not. I appreciate your point of view. You have to understand we come from 535 different districts. We have different points of view we have to represent. Our constituents expect us to raise our points of view, argue for what we believe in and at the end of the day come to an agreement around how to make america successful. That means that everybody has to give a little bit. We have never said we shouldnt do that. We believe that, but you have to understand that it is representative democracy, the nature of the system, that members will come to congress and represent the points of view they believe in. Let me be the devils advocate. Are you criticising the others for doing the same thing. You know that your bill has no chance of passing. Is that the same thing as the tea party taking on an extreme side, satisfying your base to try to get to a middle ground negotiating. Is that what is happening . No, sir. We are representing the point of view, one, that we believe in. Thats a similarity. At the end of the day we are not going to default on americas bonds and break our promise to the men people to have a funded government. We are going to reach a point where we are going to live up to our responsibilities, negotiate in good faith, and arrive at what makes sense. Now, nobody sends us to congress to abandon the principles that we go here for, but they expect us with our principles in mind to come up with answers for the american peep. That is very different from threatening to default on americas debt by breaking the debt ceiling and shutting down a government. That is saying we believe in our principles, well stick to them. At the end of the day well come to a point of agreement that is reasonable and fair. Are you okay with that . Thats what our government is. Are you okay with what governor reid is trying to do, it will be a funded bill funding through november, but well go through the battle in november . Do you know what, i believe we should fund the government for a term that americans can rely on. I dont like the shortterm funding bills. If its the best we can do, we have to deal with that. I dont prefer the short funding bills. It puts us in the same soup a short time from now. What he wants to do is get past the debt ceiling debate. That may be what he has in mind. The shortterm patches dont really give americans a chance to plan. Imagine being a fellow employ. It seems you guys dont have a chance to plan you spend so much time on negotiations that virtually nothing else gets down. Exactly. Lets change gears, i want to talk about something important you to and all americans. This week we saw the terrible pictures from nairobi, where the fighters from somali Group Alshabab took over the westgate mall, killing 72 people, perhaps many more. Earlier this year you went to somalia, and you told the miniappo lass star tribune that alshabab was reduced to a guerilla outquit. You have a lot of somalians in your district. Now you have seen alshabab, what do you think of their reach and power . I maintain they are a straight weakened group. If they could have struck in mogadishu or somalia, they would have tried to. They went to a soft target outside of nairobi, because that is where people didnt have their guard up. Its because the somali government, which is on its feet and operating it has a long way to go, but theyve made a lot of progress. Because of that they werent able to strike in somalia. The sad fact is as somalia gets stronger, i expect alshabab will look for vulnerable targets outside of somalia. That is a tragedy, and thats why the International Community has to stay strong in terms of sharing information and going after alshabab. I still maintain that if they could have struck in somalia, they would have. The fact that they didnt indicates that they didnt. Its cold comfort to the people in somalia, and my heart goes out to them. We need to keep the pressure on alshabab, and keep the supporting kenya. If they strike outside somalia, the concern thats raised, your district, as many as 20 in your district have returned to somalia at some point, some dying for alshabab. You thought alshabab recruitment drive, their recruitment drives in their state are over. Are you concerned that they are not, and some of these young men could strike in the United States . Well, what i meant is not that their recruitment was over, but they havent been successful recently. Of course, we have to stay vigilant. We have to make sure that we are talking to our young people, that we are gathering intelligence, that we have to let young people know that alshabab is nowhere, that they are not offering a future. They are offering only death, destruction and hatred. And that they have to be rejected and their philosophy is bankrupt. We have to give young people alternatives, making sure they dont slip through the tracks, and are not vulnerable to the message that alshabab was pushing towards them. One of the things that alshabab was trying to do was provoke an overreaction so they could claim that they are standing up for some articlies. This is not true, this claim they are trying to make, that they are standing up for somalis or muslims is false. They are a neogroup of murderers. An important point. Keith ellison, thank you for joining us on consider this today. Coming up iranian president Hassan Rouhani seems to be reaching out to the world. After skipping a chance to shake hands with the president , how sincere are his words. Well ask jim walsh, who just finished having dinner with the new president of Hassan Rouhani. Our producer is fielding your questions and shell bring them to it. Join the conversation on twitter, facebook and google pages. Well we right back. A much was made of the handshake that never happened between president obama and iranian president Hassan Rouhani. The socalled snub belies the reality of a Charm Offensive that the New York Times calls Hassan Rouhanimania. A dinner party was hosted at a hotel. Two dozen people were invited, including a former white house chief of staff, security advisor, diplomats and jim walsh. An International Security expert at nyt security analysis program. What struck you the most . What was the most important thing you saw . Two things. One well talk about later. This guy is not ahmadinejad in a variety of ways. Hes a different person in style and inclination and goal. The second thing that came through Crystal Clear is they want to deal, they want to deal now and get it done and done quick. He wants something to come back to his constituency in tehran and say you voted for change. That message came across. Huge. Does it feel like hes backed up by the supreme leader. I think so. His foreign minister who i have known for years spoke with confidence. If you look at the supreme leaders speeches that he made in the last couple of weeks, its changed. People have been spectacle. People have gone to him saying, we want to deal with the United States, he said, you go do that, when you come back empty handed i wont be surprised. Hes scept scepticcal but willing to give Hassan Rouhani some rope. You have met him before, you a met ahmadinejad before. He was an unusual character. I spent about 20 hours with him. He was going to be the smartest guy in the room, even if he wasnt. He was the center and had to be the center. Hassan rouhani is completely different. Its clear because of his political training, its about a process and getting a result. Ahmadinejad gave long answers, this guy is practical, prudent, organised political guy. Was anything off limits . The did you suggest we talked about israel, womens rights, human rights, afghanistan, nuclear, a gamut of issues. What about the handshake . In some meetings, closed door he said he explained this is a quote from him a sensitive subject. There are no problems in terms of shaking mr obamas hand and negotiating. We have not talked at that level in 35 years. We did not have time to make that happen. How did he address it tonight . I think he said a similar thing. I cant quote directly from the meeting we have certain rules we are under the key word, this is a complicated history, there are a lot of ways for these things to go wrong. He is about results. He was not opposed to meeting obama, but wanted to know it would lead to a result leading to a result leading to a result. Hes dealing with two constituencies, the hardliners that dont want him going near obama. Exactly but the general public, what do they want . The reformed folks, the sent rift the would be open to that. There are a lot in iran with favourable opinions of United States, a lot dont. We threatened to use force and sanctioned them. If folks did that against us, some of us would be upset. He mentioned that in his speech before the u. N. The other day. Lets talk about the reaction back in iran. Yes. There was a bit of a hollow caused translation issue holocaust translation that came up. Lets listen to what Hassan Rouhani said on cnn. Translation i said im not a historian person. Any crime that happened in history against humanity, including the crime the nazis committed towards the jews and nonjewish is reprehensible and condemnable. A newsagency in iran came out and said cnn fabricated the translation and thats not w