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BBC Radio 4 Extra BBC Radio 4 Extra February 22, 2020 100000

And more information will be available after our next program and this is one that will appeal to anyone with a deductive mind it's a shell Kane's classic. Richard Ragan editor of The Times cryptic crosswords and well I guess in the world of Sherlock there is this idea that there's a there's a definite solution to every mystery that must be some it's quite peeling to crossword setters like yes I think it is though I think that's one of the appeals of crossword of pub puzzle solving generally that there is actually because in life life can be messy sometimes you have a problem you don't have to sort it out it can be like an emotional problem or a war or some kind of puzzle of some sort but you know the end of the actual puzzle that someone has set has probably got 99.9 percent of the time does have a solution so there's a sense although you've got the if you like you've got the the puzzle you've also got the security of knowing the something at the end of it and you've got some target to aim for and hopefully it's a pleasant experience actually getting there and every clue crossword clue has an answer unless it's a really strange puzzle and that is that basically So you've got this kind of like can chase if you like which was mentioned I think before this chase we're actually and a chase which you are expected to to actually win and at the end of it you've got the reward of actually a penny drop a light bulb moment and in a in the typical Times crossword between 28 and 32 of those now but they you're a mathematician and I know you're Ok my reaction yes yes I know there is and to a lot of people math or science and and they are it's to feel like they're very separated but did do these these puzzles that involve wired still have the same appeal to you absolutely and again when people think about the 2 sciences an arts there's a debate by a man called c.p. Snow in the 1950s Ni-Cad this notion of the 2 cultures and he said the reason why we are. Solve world problems because people either say it's a bit like a science person or an arts person but the reality is in order to solve world problems need to manage that you get old at the math problems and your word crossword problems I think the best last problems almost are the ones we can get some word ones woven into it do you try and aim for those when you're setting your puzzles but yes because sometimes I think is interesting question what is a puzzle because your puzzles are actually really hard to write because they require the listener to be no brushing their teeth or getting their marmite on their toast I don't like Marmite noise from our might and they get all these sort of had them on inspiration but problems are ones where people get a pen and paper work the systematic way I do as a teacher I prefer to sort of reward the hard work of the ones who get the pen and paper and word ones I think just encourage other people to get involved because you know when you know when you mention the word math a lot of people's reaction of God and you get that I try and I try and beat out of people you know I mean from the beating death of the heart of everything no no no no no we're nice people but I think masked such a negative reputation that when people just hear numbers they like glaze over they call God His numbers on I was probably single puzzle but if you put some words in or make it like an anagram there oh I like words at school or I like reading so I think it's kind of like Gently gently get people into math and if that's using words in crosswords Well I'm all for all that that thank you but the images and considering are tough that this is going to be a very special story from Conan Doyle's the return of celebrations expertly adapted by that cools here is the adventure of the dancing men. Oh I can't throw over this. No gentleman I am Inspector Martin of an office traveller and this is a restricted area though your library I'm Dr John Watson and this is Mr Sherlock Holmes Mr Holmes but it's astonishing the crowing will be committed to 3 this morning when the well you hear a bit too quick we didn't hear about it we anticipated it and came in the hope of preventing it how did Mrs cubic meter of death Mrs qubit Mrs qubit still alive still alive thank God when what crime has taken place here 1st are you acting for the lady now her husband is extremely concerned for Mrs cubit safety of this home I'm sorry to have to hold you know that it's your toilet who's been murdered by his wife. The dancing man buys Arthur Conan Doyle dramatized for radio by birth cools with live medicine as Sherlock Holmes and Michael Williams as Dr John Watson 6 and featuring Christopher good as Hilton Cubitt and Diana Hunter as Elsie cube. The dancing man. It's a terrible business. For a girl if she lives what do you mean condition is critical for doctors when I know . After she kill him she shot herself why him oh that's the question now gentlemen you say you had prior knowledge that something was going to happen here we did You must feel important evidence that I left only the evidence of the Dancing with the Dom saying they might explain later later but if as long as an inspector. Will you associate Mr Holmes in your investigation or would you prefer to be work and then. Be proud to feel that we were acting together and that case if you let him do things in his own fashion he has shed the results with you soon as he can hold a good doctor but I must say this does seem a perfectly straightforward affair like I said the only mystery is why she did it by all accounts a model of a happy couple. Oh help me this is wonderful Yes isn't this imagine ruling over a country for 60 years have you had a king that long I don't think so I'm sure of it and they say that women are the weaker sex. Who would be able to see her from here we suddenly saw the whole thing is just amazing to have anything like this at home this is my home now help my told you cos forgive me Miss Patrick. What puts it funny if you are Mr cubit Why would you call me l c It wouldn't be proper after 4 whole weeks then when would it be proper for months for years well come on. What is your English at a kid say when can you call me Elsie. Exactly how serious I misses cubits enjoy. Going to the doctor the bullet still out in the front of her brain he telegraph to London for a specialist the operation successful when will she be able to talk perhaps never has a strong child should be affected mentally down. How is Mr Kubert shot inspector straight through the heart where were the bodies in the study and what positions he was face up in the center of the room she was crouching near the window as well as the weapon lying midway between them and why you assumed it was the lady who fired one of her husband she had proto burns on her forehead where the gun was fired at very close range there were none on him India. He was facing his hatchet who fundaments Becta of the maid Saunders and Mrs King the cook. Do you want to examine the room now Mr Holmes No not yet I want to talk to the star. Oh look at that one he looks just like your friend the Reverend any Wattles the same way look. You pretty well you can refresh you just need someone who doesn't weigh every word before she speaks to you and you can't know how much I've enjoyed these last weeks how about you how have you enjoyed your holiday in the big city Oh yes good that's good. My dear yes help. What's wrong I'm afraid you'll think me an old fool I believe that's very unlikely but why didn't you ask me a question help me when you found out for sure I was woken up by an explosion explosion you mean a gunshot Well the obviously that's what it was sir but it did seem extremely low in the stillness of the house. Carry on Mrs King and then as I was getting out of bed there was another one another explosion Well yes I thought perhaps that one was further away did you hear them to Saunders Yes just like Mrs King 2nd and then we went downstairs together the hall was full of smoke and this man how smell Oh come now did you know which room your master and mistress were in the study door was open and a candle was burning on the table I see that you do in order to stay in the doorway while we went inside the master was lying there now move in and the mess just oh cut it blurted it was horrible to say it must have been a terrible experience for both of you are you never seen a dead person before so I was Mrs cubit unconscious when you found. Which is going. I realize that this is painful for you but it's a social that you tell me everything when you went into the study was Mrs cubit still cautious yes sir that you say anything or make any effort to speak well it's might believe she was trying to say somethin so there but it was beyond her strength of all the bad. Mr Holmes so harsh girl known when was going to use what you want to say. Well begging your pardon sir. But what they're saying is that my mistress Cal the master Well it just can't be true so she couldn't get away she would not in a 1000 years you must believe that. Thank you. Yes thank you. Miss you. Well my dear to the future. Yes To The Future. That's very good. Thank you help. I've never had a better excuse to drink champagne Nor I. Go see Madea. Forgive me but is everything all right I'm the one who should be asking for forgiveness. I'm spoiling his beautiful dinner what's wrong. Man I hope. There's something I want to say to you go on. I've had some very. Disagreeable associations in my life I want to forget all about them. The past is very painful to me my dear if you take me Hilton if if you take me. You'll take a woman who has nothing she need be. Personally ashamed of. But you have to take my word for it. Promise me it won't ever ask about anything that has happened before we met. If you can't promise if that. To heart. Then go back to your Norfolk and leave me here alone. I've booked the carriage for 10 30 tomorrow morning we don't want to be late at the Registry Office thank you. Thank you. Now let's have some more champagne the windows in the study where they open only one was to hold it was closed and fast you can confirm that Mrs gate Yes you said the hall was full of smoke when you left your bedroom you smell the gunpowder straight away or not until you arrive downstairs Oh straight away Mr Holmes Yes So that's the truth as soon as I came out it hit me how significant detail inspector I commend it to your attention. And this is Mrs King might. Look Mrs King mom. It's going to take me a while to get used to that Mrs King steak and kidney pudding is unequalled in the county I love steak and kidney pudding I hope there's someone here is good at letting out dresses that would be songs as Mom this is my idea the housemaid Hello Saunders Mom are you really good with a needle that's not for me to say Mom come on don't be modest Mrs King bad day there was a man well bring me some of your work after dinner tonight Saunders I'd like to see it Mom if I'm going to be a proper English lady I'm going to need a lady's maid now aren't I Oh. Yes ma'am fine you my goods Thank you all for your wonderful welcome I'm going to be very happy here. Where. 2 cartridges fired usually yes and yes. It was lying exactly here here yes. Doctor. He says going to chance it was painless death was instantaneous it's like you go into a local doctor of a bullet struck him in the chest he collapsed backwards and fell as you see yes. The bullet still in his body Holmes and the bullet that injured the lady is still in her brain that's correct so fired and to well it's accounted for exactly that how do you explain the bullet struck the edge of the window here. Or if you do see that because I look for. Oh see my idea what is that Helen the letter for you and me. From Chicago. Who are. Thank you. My dear. Of course. I should be in my study until I'm sure enjoy your book. This time the whole case around if a 3rd shot was fired a 3rd person must be present it's quite so well who was he I mean how did you get away all the doors and windows of fastener when Mrs King and soldiers left their rooms they were immediately conscious of the smell of gunpowder Yes you said it was important I'm afraid I didn't quite right was any moments after the guns went off the fumes couldn't possibly have spread so rapidly without a through draft so when the shots were far this window must have been over not all of the shots necessarily but how did it come to be shot when the servants or I was in your confirm that a person in shock frequently performs the most Monday in everyday tasks quite unconsciously I mean closing a window. Yes that's quite true I George there is this Mrs cubits hand that yesterday's has been moved only just enough to examine the contents that's exactly where it was dropped through you can see where it struck the edge of the death before it fell. Fascinating course in it. Could have us how much inspector 2050 pound note stratum gracious me a 1000. A singular lady. Oh hello oh my dear did I startle you. Knew of course not isn't it a lovely day yes have you seen the stable boy no not this morning why I want to give him a piece of my mind on terror he's been talking damn silly pictures on one of the winter so pictures what sort of pictures homes this gunshot or how was it the Mrs King and Saunders didn't heed it that it was the whole. Mrs King's testimony of what. You. I was woken by an explosion and you said an explosion you mean a gunshot Well obviously that's what it was but it did seem extremely loud carry on Mrs King and then as I was getting out of bed there was another one another explosion Yass but she wasn't sure she was not told so thank you what you see Inspector I'm sorry for the dark forgive me but is this the way you always work together yes here's the important point exactly what Mrs King what I'm certain about you could hardly been indicted that was a 2nd so it was the nature of it that made it hesitate. And I thought perhaps that one that's the 2nd one was further away that it wasn't further away it simply wasn't as loud as the 1st explosion followed by an ordinary gun shot but of course it wasn't an explosion it was 2 guns going off some are telling us but George Well I explained everything judgment I don't know what to say this is wonderful. But I rather think we've exhausted all this room continuous Let's see what fresh evidence the garden has to offer. Look I don't think I will go here at all it's never wise to accept the 1st conclusion that presents itself. Let us see. A man. Not happy as probably not oh lord. Yes he approaches right. To the right when it is you just stand here for yes a little time. And then he brought up. Now. That it is one of the 1st the cartridge the 3rd but also the gun had an object or so this is America. I think inspector but our case is almost complete. Ha. May I speak to you of course trying to come in. What is it. It's the mistress. I mean really we're all really worried about her so. Yes Saunders So my forgive me but if she ill so should we send for Dr part. No Saunders I don't think that the Dr can help isn't there anything we can do yes yes I believe there is a total I thought I saw one the tribe 1st thing in the morning I'm going to London . Spencer there are several points that I've not been able to explain to you yet you think I don't think I've got so far I guess proceed on my own lines and clear the whole matter up once and for all just as you wish Mr Holmes so often we get our own don't you think we shall we shall Yes I have all the threads in my hand that's good enough for May 1st of all there isn't any hole or motel in the neighborhood known as l. Ridges. Hope I'm sorry sir hope there isn't not that I've ever heard of there must be. Assemble stuff. I've lived here all my life so there's no such in I'm sorry gentlemen this is all Ted. Why he's a pharmacist That's right the Lord knows he's not so active these days I hadn't heard word of him in a twelvemonth the moment is a lonely farmhouse very lonely so after having heard what happened here during the night maybe not so. Soreness I want to note that till a stable but a satellite. This whole thing's out of hand out of our hands yes for the present if you'd like to stroll with us while I think we can help you possibly interesting and profitable our. First Premier of this hope business has run Mr Cupid engaged who is to look into the mystery of the dancing men housing men or a keep cropping up with Oh I've seen nigh the whole you know here really dancing but it's time that situation was rectified. The dancing meant. What but it's just a challenge group just a trial scribble that see exactly what I thought and why do you attribute any importance to it Mr Kubert I never should doctor but my wife does. This child's scribble is frightening her to death. Was nothing stronger magic man was listening to Mrs Cupid Yes it was the 2nd manifestation of. What was the 1st they would talk on the windowsill it must have been done during the night what did you do had the most off I thought nothing of it until I just happened to mention them to Elsie. The lot of my dear you're sure you're sure that's what they were of course i'm sure why you so concerned I told you it's just the stable boy Hilton I want you to promise me something of course it's whatever you want if it happens again if any more come I want to see them straight away I don't mind telling your gentleman I was amazed that she should take it so to heart a 1000 pities that we don't have a copy of the 1st Roy did your wife recover from her shock Mr Cupid not entirely Dr No she was on edge all the next week as if she were expecting something to happen exactly 0 and when it did. What is it I just found this lying on a sundial took. Let me see. She fainted just from the sight of this. I don't know like the woman the starving described me quiet level headed independent and strong was a cubit So an assessment so you can understand his anxiety that was yesterday morning judgment since then she's looked like a woman in the dream I swear there's terror looking in her Do you consider going to the police they'd have laughed at me but I know that you were after me you would tell me what to do. I'm not what you'd call rich Mr Holmes but I'd spend my last copper to shield my wife from danger. Don't you think that your best plan would be to make a direct appeal or he'll want. To ask her to share her secret with you a promise is a promise Mr Holmes if she wanted to tell me she would it's not for me to force her confidence but I'm justified in taking my own line and I will. Then I'll help you with all my heart. What did you do when it was obvious that these hieroglyphics had a meaning but this one sample was so short that I could do nothing for terminus Cuban come back here was an instruction which presumably to make a copy of any fresh dodging many messages that are yes I take it we can call them letters exactly self-respect How long do you have to wait a fortnight. I tell you gentlemen this business is killing my wife by inches it's as much as flesh and blood can stand. Take this is to give it thank you Dr. Mr Holmes my o.c.d. Is wearing away before my eyes. Has she said anything yet. She hasn't. Oh. Oh where are you oh. Very well. Why are you sitting here by yourself and the. One. If only you knew her touch me to see you so miserable. I do know that. I do. My dear. Your family. It it's a very ancient one isn't it Denise the name goes back centuries and she's. And I know you've always taken great pride in your reputation and your honor Well yes of course what would happen. Just supposing. I. Go on. I can't. Forgive. She simply couldn't bring myself to say any more. I guess I was too clumsy with her you know now I think. That you found out several things for yourself a good deal Mr Holmes I've several fresh dancing men pictures for you. 3 of the

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