well. i hope this is a time in which well. i hope this is a time in which we can put into action our mantra of engage the taliban, test them, don't trust them, but work for the interests of the uk and the interest of the afghan people. you interests of the uk and the interest of the afghan people.— of the afghan people. you are talkin: of the afghan people. you are talking about _ of the afghan people. you are talking about international- of the afghan people. you are - talking about international bodies, ngos, charities, because they are operating on a level of cooperation which does not always run in tandem with how governments work with one another. i guess the manner of the departure of western forces from afg ha n ista n departure of western forces from afghanistan ongoing, that has caused a lot of consternation and questions about the relationship between the us and the uk and so on. what are your thoughts on the manner of the departure? it your thoughts on the manner of the de arture? .,, , departure? it has definitely diminished _ departure? it has definitely diminished the _ departure? it has definitely diminished the credibility i departure? it has definitely l diminished the credibility and standing of the waste and western