else disobeying the guards, i want to know about it and the coc is there to investigate as the health regulator to make sure that this guidance is followed. when i said what i said, what i meant of course is that is what the guidance states, people should not do it. in a system as big as the nhs, making sure that happens everywhere is a challenge in the same way that on patient safety issues everybody follows the guidance, making sure everyone follows the guidance is a challenge, thatis follows the guidance is a challenge, that is always a problem with a very large system, but as secretary of state, along with the entire clinical and nonclinical leadership of the nhs, i am absolutely crystal