transparent lcd screen which really made it look like there was someone in the box. exactly two years on, i'm finally back in la and i wanted to catch up with david nussbaum to see what's happened to his idea. how have you been? it looks like you are doing ok. we're doing all right. how has the pandemic affected the course that portl took? well, i thought that we were going to be doing a lot of permanent installations a couple of years ago. i was talking about portls being permanently installed in movie theatre lobbies and hotels. everything shut down right after i said that. chuckles. so what we did was, when everything shut down, we focused on live beaming. if you can't be there, beam there. there are now more than 200 portls around the world, and, as long as you have a connection of 15—20 mb