and that's one of the motivations why the chancellor and other european leaders want to be more self—sufficient in defence and it's notjust self—sufficient in defence and it's not just about spending the money but does the country have the commitment and the rail to wield that military power.— commitment and the rail to wield that military power. that's a good oint. that military power. that's a good point. whatever _ that military power. that's a good point. whatever the _ that military power. that's a good point. whatever the people - that military power. that's a good point. whatever the people think | point. whatever the people think about that you have to have a wheel within government circles as well. if you have greyling capability there is pressure to wield it. the instinct has been when we saw this instinct has been when we saw this in the fight against islamic state has been to hang back and to be a retreating partner in the alliance. do you see that ever—changing with germany leading from the front? l germany leading from the front? 1 don't think it can change germany leading from the front? u don't think it can change overnight. you are right in the campaign against daesh for example it tends to be contribution and the mechanisms kind of roles and very modest in its contribution and that would have to change if germany indeed wants to be able to position