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if you can only imagine making art together, if one of you is no longer capable, do you just... you quit? i think we stop. we did nearly — we did nearly 8,000 artworks. it's too early to be thinking about that anyway. is it? you said death is one of your subjects and, of course, we all, as we get older, think about it more... it's the same question you can ask any two people in the world. you wouldn't ask the taxidriver "what are you going to do when your missus dies?" we just simply believe in the amazing power of culture, the world that we live in. we are safe and free. you're not safe and free in every country in the world. we are safe and free in london town, in melbourne and in ottawa, and other countries because of culture. it's not the church — they didn't arrange it. the politicians didn't arrange the permissive society or anything else. writers and thinkers and picture—makers and poets, composers — they did that. mm—hm. it seems to me... you're more indebted to those. we accepted it. we always said we were conservatives. and i liked that.

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