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to make it work. but then, you know, for somebody who's so sort of secretive about what she does, i think one thing that was really interesting is that there were no questions around the interview. there was nothing i could and couldn't say. there was nobody sitting in the room. there was nothing i could and couldn't say. there was nobody sitting in the room. — i think i got about ten minutes more than what had been, you know, allowed for — but it was a surprisingly loose experience for somebody who is so sort of monumental and, you know, where there's, by necessity, such secrecy around what she does. and do you think the media is afraid to be critical of her now? is she that big? yeah, i think some elements are. i mean, there's various aspects of it. i mean, you've got — i mean, as is always important, you've got to be brutally accurate about everything that you do about her because she is known to be litigious, or her team will respond to things that they think are, you know, particularly egregious examples of inaccuracies or misinterpretations of what she's done. i think some critics are scared to be critical about her because she's got a very vociferous fan base online. but i do think that serious news organisations are still taking her to account about her business practices, which are not always — you know, they're not always the most favourable to other

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