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he's not the disease. - and i think the disease _ is that there are a lot of young men in the us for every one male college graduate, which is still— the ultimate onramp to the middle class in america, there's _ going to be two female college grads ifour times as likely to be addicted, i three times as likely to kill themselves, 12 times - as likely to be incarcerated. and they're looking for answers. and i think until... and also i think we on the left - sometimes don't want to acknowledge that there is a difference in boys have different needs. _ they need male role models in their life. | and i think we have - to figure out programmes. helen was talking about third . spaces, whether it's afterschool | sports, whether it's boy scouts, j whether it's church, whether it's programmes that get more men, prison release programmes. - what happens when they have prison release programmes? i crime goes down because young males get more men back- in their neighbourhood. i think we're treating... he's a symptom. but the more thoughtful conversation is how do we find out, _ how do we address why young men have . become so susceptible to this blame l

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