the system is somehow working. yeah, i think it took- a while though, didn't it? and there was a lot - of obstacles along the way. i won't forget very readily some - of the responses at downing street, notjust borisjohnson_ in the chamber when confronted by mps, but also the stuff _ we were hearing from mps supportive of him and also downing street itself, the spokesman in there, dismissing the reporting, saying it wasn't true, - personal attacks on me, personal attacks on otherjournalists. - because it wasn'tjust me, - obviously, there were lots of other journalists that broke stories. on this — including at the bbc. and they tried really, - really hard to kind of dismiss it as trivial, to discredit it. and i think for me, that's - ultimately what boris johnson felt about it and probably still feels - about it, that he has been wronged, that this wasn't serious, - that he had this sort of sense of entitlement really that made him feel that he could do whatever- he wanted in downing street, i and that he didn't have to follow the same rules as everyone else. and he got caught — and he hates that more than anything. -