growing threat to national security in i mean, you say right now, okay, it's largely assistants, people answering phones, for countries not on the frontlines in the fight against terrorism or al qaeda. as the days go on, as possibly weeks go on, does that change? >> yeah. look, i think clapper, the director of national intelligence is right to say there's something insidious about this. because as you weaken the analyst capability, right, those are the people -- you remember the old connect the dots. those are the people who connect the dots. so even if you've got collectors out there, if you don't have adequate coverage by the analysts who know these subjects, you do run a greater risk over time. >> you're slowing them down. you cut the administrative staff first that just slows you down when you're trying to -- >> they are there for a reason. you need administrative staffers. fran, good to have you on and carl bernstein as well. great conversation. up next, mia farrow and eight of her children break their silence over the scandals they've endured over the years.