them would be -- this is not journalistically cool to say so, but to try to once again put this in the public to see whether it changes people's opinions. because there were lots of promises made. there were lots of promises made in the aftermath. and i know you were right. you said nothing would change and you were right. but that's an appalling way to be right. >> actually i disagree withdrew a little bit. i'm not sure it's our job to push change. >> i agree with that. >> it's not about pushing change. >> to say we want laws to go one way or the other. i. >> it may not be your job but i feel like it's my job from. my perspective, mental health professionals can't intervene in crises effectively. there need to be a kind of procedure put in place that allows people who note difference to do their job. >> i want to give you an example from a different set of facts when we were covering bosnia, any number of horrors in the