the role of woman is interesting. and regarding to the jihadi networks. >> it would be a first for isis, isn't it? the chechens have used women. isis has not. >> in france, at least, absolutely no. and in iraq, neither. and in the middle east, they have brigades. but usually not the suicide bombers. usually a fighters of police, religious police, or this kind of thing. they hold ak-47s. >> and groomers and recruiters online. quick question before i turn to alan bauer. saint-denis, they are practically under the nose of the stad de france, which was the scene of the first massive attack on friday night. >> yeah. the same city, indeed. but the fact that if it's completely can understand under cover. the police might have some hard times to find. and it's a secret world. they have their networks. they have places to hide. if we don't catch them directly