listening to rap music. the fact that this perpetuation of young black men, because you listen to rap music? rap music is a reflection of our society. what i liked about president obama today, he didn't blame thug culture for our problems. he looked at the systemic problems. >> but the president did say that they had negative reinforcements and take that for what it is. >> the thug culture did not create low third grade reading levels, or kids who can't have -- >> does it help those people? >> it's a reflection. the mirror doesn't help anything. >> bernie shaw? >> it's a reflection of culture. o'reilly is uncomfortable with this culture, that's understandable. he did not come from this culture. that culture has some validities, if you will. i'm thinking about before my generation, people condemned