documents and they said they couldn't independently verify them. does that line up with you or can you say? >> he was clear that the u.s. goes around the world threatening and warning people about the dangers of cyber attacks that the u.s. is one of the most prolific if not the most of cyber war fair. we published in october that lays forth a very aggressive policy of when the u.s. will use offensive cyber attacks and particularly notable because it's china the u.s. directed those accusations at most, yet the u.s. according to these documents and snowden is very active in hacking into chinese research facilities, university, businesses and ones in hong kong, as well. >> glen greenwald, appreciate talking to you, thank you. a possible scandal in the state department. john miller, john, you saw when mr. snow den says in that interview. does the u.s. government know where he is at this point?