reached the distance that marseilles is saying. >> exactly. t >> the debris that was spotted over the weekend, on one hand you can look at this as hopeful, one is circular, there's also a lot of junk floating around in the ocean, a lot of debris? >> that's true, but the fact that it was colors, some of them were colors of the plane. it's certainly better than the standard rectangular ones that are the size of shipping containers off of ships. the circular one, again, it's a color of the emergency slide exits and the rafts that are in the ceiling of the plane. so that's why people are hopeful it was a brightly colored object that we know are on planes. whether it was on this plane or not, who knows. >> and, of course, if it is the raft, that brings the question elt -- david gallo way, we know now whether it's a major issue for tuesday's search.