countries. >> do you see that as part of the solution? is it our job to work on the violence problems here in the united states, is it our job to work on the gang issue in el salvador. >> it's partly our job but it's our job to encourage them to work on it. david raises the example of colombia. sure, the united states spent $8 billion over a decade on colombia. the columbian government spent ten, 15 times that amount and stepped up to the plate and sided with the government. a real problem you have in the central america countries is the elites have wallied themselves off and not concerned about the levels of violence and lack of economic development and there is so much the u.s. can do to help them if they are not willing this to help themselves. that's a balancing act. they are trying to engage and work with them and trying to encourage them to do more to help themselves. there is a role for the u.s., but we really need partners in that to make a meaningful difference in countries that are