that though? and you make people believe that donald has this huge company. >> well he's got a lot of self contract. it's not his fault. it's the sub contract. here's the bottom line. donald trump is a fraud. >> the republican party is full of people -- >> to eric ericson's point, do you think he hurt himself? >> i think we all need to lighten up a little bit. but in terms of the some of the things we're talking about, you talk to him about lobbyist, for interest. there is jeb bush coming out at some sort of lobbying reform policy that's got all kinds of holes in it that make no sense.