the people i talked to a few weeks ago when i first reported it. but the real factor that's driving so much of this is the distrust within the party now about the viability of hillary clinton's campaign, that she is on very shaky ground within her own party by people who are disappointed in the democrat party with how she has run this campaign, with her difficulty with being strayed forward and truthful about the matters of the server. and that's what has brought on so much of this, along with donald trump. >> so, john, if you are hillary clinton and the clinton campaign watching this, i mean, you've known that joe biden was thinking about it for a while. but over the last four days, this has just gone to a whole new level. >> it certainly has. it's gone to a whole new level at a key moment. number one n an odd way, this could in the long run, if joe biden doesn't run or if he runs and can't beat hillary clinton will in an odd way help her. what were we talking before, the