with this pope. >> of course, we deal with this very differently because the randomness is actually safety. and we're a much smaller core. there's only 115 of us. so we can actually handle him -- we can handle the very close protection and if he does something that's totally unexpected, it's much less dangerous than say him being at noon every sunday at the window or the wednesday audience. if he does something very unexpected, for us that's more security. >> there's so many scenes, though, where people hand him things. i saw somebody handing him a pizza once when he was driving by, somebody handing him a traditional drink. that's got to be a moment of concern. >> we're trying that he wouldn't hand it directly to him. >> so one of the guards would take that. same with the children, that you basically grab the children first and bring somebody up and while do that, you can make sure nothing wrong is going on.