since 2011 and she takes it. i said does it work for her? he says it seems to. >> how can he claim, though, like he did in the cnbc debate that there is no relationship with mannatech? he gave repeated speeches. they under wrote something he did on public broadcasting a special under by associates of the company. it sure sounds like a relationship, i guess, is the definition of what a relationship exactly is. >> all we can do is layout the facts and for about a decade, he had this, i would call it a relationship, anderson, with n mannate mannatech. he was on their website. he says they didn't have his approval to use that but he didn't stop them from using it, either but all we can do is layout the facts and let the people decide whether or not this was a relationship or what kind of relationship it and was there are the facts and he says he uses it and despite the fact there is no clinical research to say it works, he says it works