president and lapierre? >> correct. >> your source was briefed? >> correct. >> that's fascinating. thank you, appreciate it. >> thank you, anderson. joining us is somebody that confronted president trump and had ever reason to. this is the mayor of dayton, ohio, and who the president attacked after visiting the wounded city. the last time you were on the program, you accused the president of being a coward. is there any light of that especially in the reporting we heard? >> not really, anderson. i can't say i'm very much surprised. i was hoping that the president was a man of action instead of a man of talk and, you know, the people of dayton when this happened on sunday night, you know, shouted to the governor, who is a republican, to do something, not say something. the governor is responding. our congressman is responding with an assault -- supporting an assault weapon ban but unfortunately, we're not seeing