invasion of the body snatchers. who are these people? they're unrecognizable to me. they've lost all conscience and all moral compass in order to defend the indefensible. >> jim, the president's former homeland security adviser who i think you know, tom bossert told abc not only is the substance of the president's phone call with the ukrainian president problematic but the president has to get over his debunked conspiracy theory of the 2016 election involving ukraine. do you agree with what bossert is saying? >> look, bossert's a credible guy. i said that on tv last night. i respect his opinion. let's not -- what he was talking about is relating to the dnc servers, not relating to the -- the debunked theory related to the dnc servers and not relating to the phone call with the president of ukraine. that being said, i agree, there is some hysteria -- >> the phone call with the president of ukraine was asking -- i mean, of the two asks, it was look into, investigate, the debunked the y theory, the, quote, made-up theory about ukraine and the servers. that was the first ask. the second was do me a favor