republicans. if democrats were smart they'd bring republicans in, make them part of the process -- >> congressman dent, republicans, just to be clear, are part of the process. there is an equal number of republicans in that skiff yesterday who could ask questions. as mark meadows said publicly, they can ask as many questions as they want, they have equal time, they go as long as they want. that's the benefit of having private hearings at this point, and that will then go public. i want to play some of the former congressman trey gowdy said about public hearings. >> public hearings are a circus, that's why i don't like to do them, it's a freak show. the private interviews are much more constructive. >> congressman dent, are they more constructive? >> well, having conducted investigations on the ethics committee, and trey gowdy served on that committee, he was a very constructive member of that committee. and i found that sometimes in