say -- how any of this is how it is supposed to work, not the ambassador's removal, career first aid through twitter, alleged phone calls to hannity, the president's tv lawyer scuttling about gathering dirt, not any of it. or as ambassador mckinley put it in his testimony, in 37 years in the foreign service in different parts of the globe working on many controversial issues, working ten years back in washington, i had never seen that. four administration officials were supposed to testify today. none of them showed up. more transcripts are due out tomorrow. i want to talk about all this. joining me now cnn senior political analyst david gergen, nixon white house counsel, john dean. david, i'm wondering how what you make of the transcripts that have been released today. >> we should be very glad they've been released. it gives the granular view, much more sobering and distressing than what we had heard before today. and i think the details show you that this became a ses pool. our own state department became