removed -- it's not john bolton himself. but she can give some context to what bolton's reactions were i assume. >> she was number two loyal to bolton. she is his proxy tomorrow. i think that's what we'll hear hear her talk about. and she is the one who expressed concern and quoted john bolton directly as referring to what mulvaney and sondland were cooking up as a drug deal, saying he didn't want any part of it. and i think she can talk a little bit more about why bolton was so upset with ambassador sondland and maybe even with the president himself. i mean, in also underscores why we need to hear from john boltonen in all of in because he is so central to all of this. but he clearly wanted the aid to go to ukraine immediately. and he was upset. and he called what mulvaney and sondland were doing a drug deal. he -- and i think she heard it.