was a legal tactic on their part. why do you believe that and what do you think they were hoping to a kee achieve with it. first of all, the statement made no sense. one day he criticized reverend sharpton for being there and the next day he apologized for those he allegedly offended and there was no consistence, in addition to that, we believe there is an attempt on their part to get a mistrial and hoping that black pastors, i guess, would roam into the courtroom and intimidate the jury and that kind of thing. so we really think this was a legal tactic that we had no intention of walking into. >> benjamin crump, who as you know, is the attorney for ahmaud arbery's father is looked at as a criminal or thug and someone like kyle rittenhouse, with