he rarely sent e-mails. you know, texts, for that matter. i guess, what i am asking is what are the chances that if there is any evidence or there might not be any evidence left behind of things that he was doing? >> i mean, look. john, there is clearly, you know, there is some documentation, even some of the ripped-up material was taped back together, although that has i think posed other challenges for archivists. so there is certainly a question. this is not someone, as you said, who was known to use e-mail. he did not really respond on texts. i know he did receive texts from people. i have never heard of him responding to one. you know, we had some reporting today at "the times" that the white house call logs from january 6th, for instance, appear to have gaps from when the investigators believe that he was on the phone with a number of people, it raises questions about what happened. there is no evidence, as we understand it, to suggest they were tampered with but it is a reminder that this former president often did not use the white house switchboard. he used other aides' phones. and so, you know, i -- i think