>> basically, you are saying if the only choice they have is to run as if it is going to come down because if it doesn't come down, they are in trouble? >> exactly. precisely. you just surmised exactly what my thinking is. so just go out, act like a winner, act like you know what you are doing, about like it's gonna work. if -- by the way, 14 nobel haur laureates think it is going to come down, bet on them. but you got to act like you know what you are doing. and go from there but you got to exude confidence. >> what about covid? is -- is it the same thing with covid? >> covid's dropping. i mean, i -- like anybody else, i tracked the numbers every day. it's like this huge drop here in the last few weeks. and i -- i don't know, i am not a public health person but public-health people think this is going to continue and covid -- it is a drag. i mean, we thought we were doing better in december.