minute gap. it's astonishing, and it is -- carl and i worked 50 years ago on watergate, tangled, hidden, and this goes longer. and based on the -- and deeper. and based on the information i have, i think the people who concocted this scheme of the alleged stolen election, that there's no evidence on, are next year going to win an academy award for the fabrication. >> carl, how does this happen? how does a phone log in the white house just have this gap in it? and because as, you know, as has been extensively reported, we know house republican leader kevin mccarthy, his phone call to the president, these should be in the records, but they aren't. >> no, the way it happens is that people who are determined that we not know the truth about