>> yeah. >> maybe the ego is one character among many in your mind and you don't necessarily have to listen to that voice that's chattering at you and criticizing you and tell you what to do. and that's very freeing it was certainly freeing for carrie pappas over cancer has now spread to her brain. >> her crippling anxiety about death he's gone. >> yeah. it's amazing i mean, i feel like death doesn't frighten me. living doesn't frighten me. i don't frighten me. this frightens me, but this interview for death doesn't know it turns out most of the 51 cancer patients and the johns hopkins study experienced significant decreases and depressed mood and anxiety after trying psilocybin. >> two thirds of them rated their psilocybin sessions as among the most meaningful experiences of their lives we're some, it was on par with the birth of their children to this day. >> it evolves in me.