>> from the standpoint of the elts not activating with the salt water, the slide rafts would have them in them. >> that for you is a big red flag, why those elts. we've heard from a number of pilots today or folks we're actually going to have a piece about elts later on. a lot of people raising the question, the elts why didn't they go off because there are multiple ones. >> there is. and the slide rafts, i don't know how this airplane is configured. but there could be some that were in the overhead bins, too, strapped down. >> david gallo, excuse me david souci, are you skeptical about this debris given the amount of time? >> because of the amount of time, i'm concerned if it was a wing, it's a tapered wing. and the center spars of that wing are very heavy compared to the tip of that wing. so the fact that it would be flat enough to be seen in that configuration concerns me a little bit. i would think that wing would have tilted toward the heavy side, which could keep it afloat but it wouldn't be in that