live shows a year, and if you see one or two live shows, you might as well see something that you can only see live. >> right. >> you can never, ever see a magician any way but live. >> these days for better or worse, live acts, live performers, are being squeezed out in favor of edm, electronic dance music. it's a dj's world. and where once they used to say cocaine was god's way of telling you you had too much money, now maybe edm is. >> we get invited to all the openings of the new clubs but i simply don't understand it. i'm embarrassed that i don't understand it. >> are we just old? >> i think that might be it. >> or are we non-douchy. >> i don't know. you want to spin it the latter. i'm afraid it might be the former. >> used to be a whole spectrum