if she was leaning on one of them for support. he tried to comfort her saying she was a victim too and she said no, no, she was clearly focused on the families of the people who have lost loved ones during this massacre, this shooting spree committed by her son. but she was frail. she seemed tired and knew the impact of this and perhaps the most poignant statement was you know, he's somewhere where he can no longer hurt anyone. that was very emotional, but we tried following up with a couple of questions, but she didn't want to answer anything. she doesn't even know how she's going to be able to go back to work. mikele? >> deb, i can't imagine a mother being able to say that about her son that he's in a better place now that he's dead but he's no longer able to kill anybody. did she shed any more light what he was like as an individual or whether or not he had any problems that she was aware of? >> no, she really didn't. you know, she mentioned the fact that she believed there were