oscar this year for that. >> you wonder how he had the time to do both if that was really the deal, right? >> 120 movies under his belt. he definitely had some huge titles. so yeah, it is a wonder how he managed all those years to keep it a secret. robert de niro in that interview did say he asked him years ago about this, and he did say admit to robert that he was doing it. so maybe some people knew. a couple people knew, but he -- i have been covering, i'll say this. i've been covering hollywood, what goes on there for a very long time. not much surprises me. this is a surprise story. >> this is a surprise. it is worth' movie, too. maybe he'll do his own movie on his life. initial, thanks, appreciate it. >> sure. >> i bet you can guarantee that. still to come here, the thanksgiving travel frenzy in full swing and we are having a little bit of fun with it. we got reporters racing from new york to d.c. to see who gets