>> they even managed to get hold of private details of the president's nonpublic schedule. let's get over to justice reporter evan perez. you've been getting a lot of these details coming out. what else are you learning about the attack and most importantly now what the white house is going to do about it? >> reporter: that's a very interesting question because i know behind the scenes there's been a lot of discussion inside the government pushing for the u.s. government to publicly shame russia and say we know you were behind this hack and to try to bring this out into the open. there's a lot of discussion behind the scenes. i don't know that it will happen partly because the state department doesn't want to anger the russians and there's a lot of issues that are going back and forth. really the way the russian hackers got in here was through the state department. they first hacked into the state department and then they used that perch to be able to trick someone to allow them access into the white house. executive office of the president, which although it was an unclassified e-mail system as