so concerned that they were on hand for it. there was a notion that something could go wrong, correct? >> that's what they say. however, they never reached out to the texas confederation of clubs and independents who scheduled this meeting. this was a regular scheduled meeting. we meet every two months. this was the venue that they chose. they had reserved the patio. if they had suspected such violence, why didn't they reach out to the group that was holding the meeting and let us know that so we could change venue or make other arrangements. we never heard from them. >> mr. smith, it sounds to me as we've been talking to you that you're really skeptical of not only the police's account but of the police and how they've acted here. do you not believe them? >> i'm skeptical. >> what gives you reason to be skeptical? >> well, for example, the affidavits they filed in this