they would be more likely to go shopping for some other candidates. >> it is interesting. $1 million in iowa on tv, it frees up the candidates to do different kinds of messages, right? can't they talk about themselves, can't they talk about trump in different ways? a million bucks against trump on the air waves. >> $1 million from a 527 or super pac doesn't have the same effect. but club for growth is one of those groups on the air making that case to voters. we'll see if this starts to move the dial for those registering support for donald trump. >> if they are quickly pushed into -- if trump pushes them into the corner where they, too, are seeing the establishment, even though we know their history, they have a problem and then they become a bad guy. >> they hit donald trump up for $1 million donation. >> right, right. >> interesting. great to have you here with us. thank you so much. do not miss this cnn debate. it is tomorrow night right here