about it in the debate. rand paul said what donald trump is proposing is exactly what the terrorists would want. do you think -- do you think shutting down even a part of the internet is part of a plan? >> we cannot sacrifice our way of life in order to keep us locked down and secure. the terrorists get their way. so, we have to balance these things. but i've been asking, why is the internet still working in raqqah where these cells are actually growing and leading the isis terrorist capability? they're expanding -- >> can we take out the internet in raqqah? >> absolutely. why -- why is the electricity still on? why is the oil still flowing? we have been using air power in such a pathetic way. we have got to step up our game, study their centers of gravity, use air power for all it brings to the fight in order to put them on their heels. the fact we've been plinking them with reactive air strikes, over five months, 15 strikes a day compared to desert storm was