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CNN At This Hour With Berman and Michaela December 17, 2014 16:16:00

working and castro needs to be punished versus it's not working and something more needs to be done, a modernization of regulation relations. that's the tack the white house is taking here. so we haven't heard from the president yet but we heard a background grieving from seen your white house officials who laid out the entire scope of this. they say the focus is very much still on human rights and democracy but the past policy wasn't doing it. they feel like this will be a more efficient way to press those needs in cuba. it's shocking. the fact that cuba just convicted an sentenced alan gross to 15 years in prison for fomenting dissent, in 2011 and now today we're seeing this sea change as you called it. >> i was going ask you very quickly in terms of what we're expecting in terms of backlash, because we know the last time we

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