any normal context themselves would be concerning. why is the president talking about the ukrainians striking a peace deal with the russians? what does he mean when something is going to happen to the woman who used to be the u.s. ambassador as he's criticizing. some things are going to happen to her, he's alleged to have said. there's alarming kernels of attention in there. but the big thing is, what did the president do? who saw those actions? what really happened? that's what we've got to focus on. the fact that the whistle-blower acknowledges in the complaint that the information they are reporting is secondhand, that this is nondirect firsthand accounts of the allegations, is that a problem for you? that is something i have heard from republicans on your committee and elsewhere. >> yes, i've heard them say that. we know these are white house talking points, because the white house mailed the talking points to the democrats.