there but just one of course sticks out. when people were listening to this in realtime, the call there were significant concerns what was going on, alarm bells were sort of ringing. people were trying to figure out what to do, how to get a grasp of the situation. i found that striking because it goes directly against what the president has been saying, that the call was perfect and that this was as you mentioned was just one whistleblower with an axe to grind. buy, there's no evidence that this person has a political axe to grind. but i just find that a very illuminate [important quotation. >> exactly. even before the call is over, you know, people are starting to almost panic. i'm not sure that's too strong a word in this case. and as we say in our story today that those who are listening to the call come out of it and they immediately start looking for higher ranking officials in the